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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 25, 2024

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I mean “crack NATO” in the sense of pushing things far enough that France, Germany and the United Kingdom have to either weenie out or consign themselves to the Third World War.

I don't know how many times people need to hear it, but Ukraine is not a NATO signatory. By "crack NATO" do you just mean make the west look a little weak for not going to WW3 over Ukraine?

I mean we are getting a great deal here. A very small amount of support and money and Russia is bogged down wasting money and blood and materiel for what? a 2rd rate former soviet bloc country if they win?

What I mean is that I think the end goal is to eventually attack a more marginal NATO member (probably Poland or the Baltic states) and then get Germany and France and the US to back down on doing anything about it, thus be-clowning NATO as an institution. Edited to add: Ukraine has the largest army in Europe besides Russia, and thanks to international support is one of the best equipped armies in the world. It was supposed to be Europe’s buffer against Russia for the next 20 years. It’s not Liechtenstein-tier like many people on Reddit assume. It’s not a minor conquest, and the “three days to Kiev” quote that’s often bandied about was from western sources, not Russia itself.

So you have a timeline for an invasion of a NATO state yet? Any interest in the wager?

Care to make a wager? I follow the news fairly closely and I had no idea the Ukraine was supposed to be a bulwark against Russian aggression until 2042. They were certainly not even close to the best equipped when Russia invaded. They are getting supplies now for sure, but still their air power is non-existent, along with dozens of other serious shortfalls in material and manpower.

Will you put up a few thousand to mark your opinion as a serious prediction? I will put up a few K against NATO leaving a NATO country to be taken over by Russia and NATO becoming "be-clowned". Say 2 year timeframe?

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