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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 11, 2024

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And progressives have no qualms about saying wingnuts should be ignored. You're back at square one. Why should they care how many people believe in false things? Let the record stand corrected.

Google is not banning Holocaust denial. Not showing it unless people ask for it isn't banning.

And google is not banning wingnuttery. I mean, there are massive problems with denying people fair access to an algorithm. But hey, you can ignore those for deniers, why shouldn't progressives do the same for their outgroup? Just quash whatever it is you don't like before it gets the chance of gaining popularity.

What's the alternative to using reasons, even if you think your own are good and someone else's are bad--just don't use reasons?

I'm not looking for an alternative to reason. I'm looking for some self awareness and a broader contextualization of things so you can recognize the point of contention.

Why should they care how many people believe in false things?

Because Google is there to provide what people search for, and people aren't searching for false results.

why shouldn't progressives do the same for their outgroup

Because a substantial number of people want to find the things said by their outgroup, but no substantial number of people wants to find Holocaust denial (outside Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.)

Then there's no problem with Google banning wingnut stuff.

Because a substantial number of people want to find the things said by their outgroup, but no substantial number of people wants to find Holocaust denial (outside Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.)

Is it classified as 'substantial' when the amount of people clicking the holocaust denial link drive it to the top of Google search results? Are entire nations not 'substantial'? I mean, I agree in a sense. If we exclude everyone who might want to click the link, no one wants to click it.

Is it classified as 'substantial' when the amount of people clicking the holocaust denial link drive it to the top of Google search results?

Just because they click it doesn't mean they want it. It's like clicking on a scam, except that unlike a scam, which is false and trying to take your money, this one's just false. People don't want false pages.

You have no idea whether people wanted to click the link or not. When people click 'Top 10 Reasons Why the Holocaust Didn't Happen' I'd wager they know where they are going. It's a funny headline if nothing else.

People don't want false pages.

Then you have no problem with Google removing wingnuttery.

Wingnuttery is not 99% recognized as false, Holocaust denial is, unless you're in Iran.

All the more reason to remove it.

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