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Notes -
I agree that consequences matter, but don't believe they're the only thing that matter, so I disagree with consequentialism. That was the whole point of my original comment.
Pretty much all deontologists, virtue ethicists, etc. will agree that good governance is important. Very few will assert that consequences are entirely irrelevant to morality.
“the end goal ideal state we're working towards” was poorly worded. I just meant to gesture vaguely towards morality and terminal values.
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