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Some time ago I examined my modernity-shocked mind and came to the surprising conclusion that on most matters me and the local band of hardcore orthodox Christians see eye to eye. Apart from minor stuff such as male modesty (what?) and probably reproductive technology.
But faith is not for me, so I'm out of luck when it comes to finding a group I could imagine joining.
Why is male modesty not important to you but I assume from context female modesty is?
Male bodies are not sexy and I'm not budging on this so why wear too much clothing? As long as genitals are hidden, it's ok.
There are some male bodies that are sexy. Chris Hemsworth can absolutely provoke many women to lust by walking around shirtless.
Chris Hemsworth is a Hollywood star with a physique that's out of reach for almost anyone. Someone with his exact same physique but not his stardom also wouldn't turn nearly as many heads. "Look what they need to mimic just a fraction of our power" is a quotation that comes to mind.
He was an extreme example, but there are still a large amount of men who are sexy. Looking at dating app stats, the top 10% of most attractive men do have a pretty large amount of hook ups. It's not their words or ability to provide that convince women to have sex with them, it's what they look like.
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I thought the traditional Christian take on male clothing was more that under-clothed men are undignified.
This is one of the things I don't like about California culture, and I don't care for events where the women all dress up fancy, and the men are in shorts and t-shirts. It seems slovenly. Many churches ask men not to wear shorts because it's disrespectful, not because men commonly have sexy knees. I agree that sexy male knees are not really a thing. Sexy male chests is a thing, but not that common. Very muscular men who jog around shirtless to show off are certainly being immodest, but also aren't all that common, at least places I've visited.
That's something entirely different. I'd not dream of attending a funeral or a religious service in shorts.
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