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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 29, 2024

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Nations are by default nationalistic and self interested. Your religion is orthogonal to your nationality.

Do I think a muslim should be allowed to be the Pope? Similarly no.

Is it? Catholics particularly were regarded as suspicious for just that reason for a long time. If you want to open that box don't be surprised at what comes out.

Do you think a Muslim should be allowed to be the pope?

I'm an atheist so as far as I am concerned, both a Muslim and the pope believe very similar fairy tales, so it would make very little difference to me. Having said that, given I am not Catholic it's not up to me. If Catholics want a Muslim pope then yes they should be allowed to do it. It's a private organization that can choose whoever it wants to be its leader. If they don't want a Muslim Pope (and I imagine they do not) then that is also entirely within their rights.

Or to put it more clearly what do you mean by "allowed"? Allowed by whom?

Allowed by the Catholics.

I, an American, would prefer if non Americans were not allowed to hold positions of power over me.

Well then sure, if Catholics want a Muslim pope then they should be allowed to have one. It's their church.

As for the non-American thing, the people we are talking about are American citizens, they just also have another citizenship. So they should meet your criteria.

My criteria, outlined in my first comment, was that would prefer if only naturally born citizens of The United States were allowed to hold office.

I'm confused by your choices of examples then. No-one is born Catholic. It has to be chosen. Baptism, Confirmation and receiving the Eucharist are I think the steps one must officially take. Presumably then you feel there should be no Pope at all, Muslim or otherwise?

Presumably then you feel there should be no Pope at all, Muslim or otherwise?

What is the purpose of this other than extremely bad faith argument?

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