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My man, I am the most Patriotic American who is technically not an American.
Just look at some of the things I've written, without a shred of irony:
https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/s/wU84Yxg320
Or if you want the version on the Motte:
https://www.themotte.org/post/565/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/116844?context=8#context
It is indeed easier for a British citizen to become American than and Indian to do directly, but even then it'll take me 6 years to become a Brit, and my ability to become an American citizen is contingent on my ability to find a job that'll hire me.
As I've been moaning about, I cannot legally work as a doctor in the US, or even sit the exams to prove my competency. Not even if I meet the British standards or complete their courses. The problem is at the root. As for switching careers? While I'm not old, I'm approaching 30, certainly wrong side of my 20s. Finding an entirely new career is enormously risky, all the more because I expect every career to start getting the squeeze soon enough.
See, I am an unabashed tacticool milsim LARPer. If it's not a tricked out rifle in 5.56, 7.62x51, or ideally something like 6.8x51, when that's more available, I don't want it. Just a shotgun fit for partridge or a plinker to keep foxes at bay doesn't cut it.
As I told someone else who made a similar suggestion it's like telling someone who is a muscle car fanatic that he should be happy with a Japanese micro car. It's got 4 wheels and takes you from place to place doesn't it? Though I'm sure you understand my objection far better than she ever could.
Yeah, I totally get it. And I like your writeup. I guess I am surprised there exist women in India that hold basically the same views as a progressive American college student. Personally I live in a ban state right now (Illinois's PICA went into effect January 1st) so I'm trying to learn to appreciate the other stuff. No restrictions on (pump) shotguns, bolt actions, SKSes without detachable mags, pistols without threaded barrels or magazine capacity over 15 rounds, etc, etc. I hope you figure something out. I'd help you get here if I could, way better to have someone like you that actually likes the country than the throngs of suburbanites who hate it.
Alternatively, see if you can get into the Czech Republic. I'm sure it has a lot of the same downsides most of Europe has, but at least they share our gun culture.
I appreciate the kind words and well wishes. It does mean a lot to me, that many individuals Americans appreciate my genuine love for their country, and would happily have me there, if it wasn't for minor procedural fuckups and regulations keeping me away.
If this was a Civilization game, America won the Cultural Victory decades back. I hold incredibly American views. So does she, it just happens to be that many Americans hold anti-American views.
What in the absolute fuck. That sound even worse than Cali, and their abominations. I hope it gets repealed, and soon.
Nobody ever suggested that to me, so I'd have to look it up. Gun laws are hardly the only consideration, they'd need to have decent wages and ideally let me work in English. But I appreciate the suggestion and I'll be sure to take a look!
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