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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 8, 2024

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When avoiding a derogatory term makes discussion more difficult you will have a leg to stand on. “Tranny” doesn’t, yet you insist on sheltering under free speech.

So I ask: how is this specific usage of Free Speech (allowing people to say “tranny”) helping us achieve our terminal value?

All of the community's rules must be justified by this foundation.

Yes, it takes judgement to decide what speech to allow. But here’s a simple heuristic:

If a word drives some people away and is unnecessary for communicating ideas, then modding its usage helps one aspect of the foundation and doesn’t hurt the other.

“Tranny” drives away certain perspectives and makes no ideas easier to communicate. So how is allowing it helping achieve the foundation?

It is a regrettable aspect of modernity that people can and will take umbrage to just about any word, and we had to come up with the Euphemism Treadmill to describe the process occurring so rapidly that people with good intentions who aren't precisely up to date with what's in vogue, are left bemused when attacked for using what they remember as a benign term. "Wait, I thought they wanted us to call them Negroes?" A bemused old lady says as she's heckled outside a grocery story. "But what do you mean, Colored People is bad? Isn't that the same thing as People of Color??" A confused activist says as he's actively being canceled.

It is not a myth that some people object to the use of the word "mother" instead of "birthing person", or the word "retard" instead of "mentally handicapped" (and wouldn't you know it, some people even find the latter or merely "disabled" bad), even if you call someone with clinically diagnosed mental retardation a retard instead of trying to imply your opponents are so.

If a word drives some people away and is unnecessary for communicating ideas, then modding its usage helps one aspect of the foundation and doesn’t hurt the other.

My rebuttal is that such a level of word and tone-policing also drives away people who prefer free speech, or at least those who are dismayed by the Treadmill sweeping them off their feet. It is not a costless tradeoff as you imply.

Tranny might well be offensive to the majority of forum users (I don't think so, but it certainly is to a large fraction). It is, however, a word that can be applied precisely to the same set of people who can be more politely called trans or transfolk. I resent every linguistic imposition placed on me, regardless of whether I want to use the term, and as you can see, there are plenty of people who wish to use it. Trans people are also, despite their overrepresentation in online discourse, a very small minority in absolute terms.

But I am not interested in litigating every word anyone can potentially object to, because there are thousands of them. The matter has been internally discussed within the mod team, and so far, the closest we have to a consensus is:

"there is no hard and fast rule banning slurs. However, slurs exist to communicate antipathy/hostility/heat-and-not-light, so if you are including them in your post, you'd probably better make sure you compensate somehow. It's entirely possible to turn a marginal post into a modable post by the simple addition of slurs. There is no formal rule, we'll do our best and we expect you to do the same."*

This is not an official rule because it isn't an official rule. If explicit moderation guidelines emerge that rule out anything that a relatively well-defined set of the mods or users consider a slur, no matter the rest of the comment, I will enforce it in my remit as a mod. Until then, you are welcome to advocate for your stance, to the extent that I have some leeway to interpret the Foundation, I happen to disagree and will personally not moderate on that basis alone until the mod consensus says I should. Or we have a formal rule to that effect.

*formulated by the ever-eloquent @FCfromSSC, and personally endorsed by at least me and @raggedyanthem, but as I stress, not a binding declaration or even outright consensus.

My rebuttal is that such a level of word and tone-policing also drives away people who prefer free speech, or at least those who are dismayed by the Treadmill sweeping them off their feet. It is not a costless tradeoff as you imply.

It's not costless, but is absolutely a requirement for hosting a space with diverse viewpoints that people treat each other politely. It's a contradiction to want a place with diverse viewpoints, but also a place that wants to accommodate Englishmen who just can't help themselves when they see an Irishman.

Why yes, what counts as a weapon isn't a well-defined problem. I'm sure even Stephen Hawking could assault you, by the legal definition, if only by hawking a lob of phlegm in your general direction.

Consider me the equivalent of a Second Amendment advocate who is OK with concealed carry of pistols on public grounds, but not the private ownership of nuclear weapons.

No matter what you say or do, a non-zero number of people will consider it hostile. Inaction is no shield, wasn't "silence is violence" a popular shibboleth for a bit?

This is still a matter of active debate within the mods, so I am ready to reverse my stance and swallow my minor discontent if necessary. But everything we do is subjective, unavoidably so, and I'm trying to find a way of moderating things that isn't actively contradictory or against the way it was done before.

What's your assessment of the word "Homophobe"?

Bad word. "Doesn't like gay people" communicates the exact same thing but with less heat.

Why not "homosexual-critical", or some other more neutral construction? Do you think most "homophobes" don't like gay people as people, as opposed to objecting to some action or aspect common within the gay community?

Should we ban the use of "homophobe" here? After all, you claim that banning such words is "absolutely a requirement for hosting a space with diverse viewpoints that treat each other politely".

It’s doesn’t matter what I think. “The group of people who don’t like gay people” is a valid set of people to talk about. Referencing that group is allowed, and people are welcome to argue how large it is.

Referencing that group in a deliberately inflammatory way should not be allowed.

I’m sure there are awkward edge cases you can catch me up with, but the existence of edge cases doesn’t justify ignoring the non-edge cases.

“Tranny” exists as an inflammatory way to say “transgender person”. It is not an edge case and not defensible.

The people who use it are using it to demonstrate their disdain for transpeople which is not “writing like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion”.