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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 25, 2023

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Is somebody asking you to consider doing that?

If you're using efficiency as an argument for doing something with no other considerations bounding it (such as enjoyment) then, yes, you are asking exactly that.

Veganism is one point on the spectrum, with people both before it and after it. You cannot dismiss it by appealing to the limit (you’ll note that vegans don’t eat flavorless paste).

Unless you’re arguing that anyone advocating for efficiency in consumption has to eat flavorless paste, otherwise they’re a hypocrite.

The key is not that they're advocating efficiency, it's that they're excluding other things. If they exclude enjoyment, yet they don't eat flavorless paste, indicating that enjoyment actually matters to them, yes, they're a hypocrite.

Responding to "one benefit of X is Y" with "I think you're forgetting about Z" is completely fine.

When somebody (zeke5123) incorrectly says "actually Y isn't a benefit of X" and somebody (sodiummuffin) responds with "actually, you're wrong because etc.", it is completely inappropriate to accuse them of forgetting about Z (assuming that was what astranagant was actually doing).

sodiummuffin never claimed to be doing a fully-fledged accounting of all the pros and cons of veganism.

(you’ll note that vegans don’t eat flavorless paste)

I've seen vegan bacon. It looks like a plastic dog toy.

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