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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 4, 2023

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But what if teachers did want to have sex with kids and did try to influence them to have sex with them?

Then that would be bad and then be grooming yes. Adults should not have sex with children, so I would oppose it on those grounds.

Adults should not have sex with children

Why not? What's your moral justification against it (and how does it not apply to puberty blockers)?

What about children with children? If the teachers were to have practical sex-ed organizing orgies between pupils? Perhaps filming for educational purposes as well.

Because I intuit that is wrong. If puberty blockers are a medical treatment for a medical condition then they are probably ok. But it would probably depend on the age of the child, the situation they were in and the opinion of medical professionals. I imagine sometimes they would be ok and sometimes not.

So if a medical professional built up on the work of Wilhelm Reich and confidently came out with something like 'sexually repressed' youth and diagnosed your child, would it be okay for them to get some much needed relief?

How many medical professionals need to get together for you to agree that this is fine? What if all the medical professionals who disagree get banned from X?

There are a lot of hurdles to cross for sex to be a treatment. Especially with the existence of masturbation. We generally don't accept it as a treatment for adults, so i simply don't forsee it happening for children. Given we've moved away from Reich's orgone work, i don't see us suddenly flipping course towards it.

Conveniently sidestepping the hypothetical.

Science comes and go. One of the pioneers of sex reassignment surgery, which you seem to be supportive of, Magnus Hirschfeld, apparently referred to a woman as suffering from hysteria, for which one of the recognized treatments was sex.

Hirschfeld also testified that, though he still believed female sexuality was normal, Elbe was suffering from hysteria caused by a lack of sex, and so the court should discount her stories about a sexual relationship between Moltke and Eulenburg.

If Science suddenly flipped, would you accept the treatment for your child?

Nope, because we (as per the discussion about sex work below) treat sex as an exception from most things, and sex with minors even more so.

If I were raised in some hypothetical society with very different norms around sex, would I feel differently? Quite possibly, the culture we are raised within has a huge impact on how we think (see Ancient Greece or Rome vs opinions on homosexuality within Christian cultures) , but since I wasn't I cannot say for sure. But that culture is not this one in any case.

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