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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 19, 2022

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why are you conflating sex with gender (Gender roles)?

Just proved my point.

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Can you answer my question instead of saying meaningless pithy remarks?

Aren’t they the same thing

no, the bargain struct between progressives and everyone else was that sex was the biological categories of male and female and they were defined by biology; and gender or gender roles was agreed to be the social constructs of woman, man and what have you. Of course, as with anything else the progressives are beginning to renege on the deal (like with the abortion one), and there have been an encroachment of gender on sex, but it still hasn't spread.

Nobody on the right even understands that deal. Agree they are reneging on that. I’m fine with some people being transexual - biologically fuck up.

Gender is a social construct ? I’ve never had a female buy me dinner because she made more than me. Sounds fun. Doesn’t happen.

Nobody on the right even understands that deal. Agree they are reneging on that. I’m fine with some people being transexual - biologically fuck up.

The deal is not exclusively between progs and republicans, but progs and everyone else including moderate democrats.

Gender is a social construct ? I’ve never had a female buy me dinner because she made more than me. Sounds fun. Doesn’t happen.

So? what is your point there?. I'm just telling you what it has been agreed, if you have a problem with it because females don't pay for your dates take it with them. You can begin by going to the wikipedia page referring with genders (not a perfect source of the definition but it's there at least) and fight it out with the editors there if you want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

Again no one besides yourself agreed to this deal.

I never made this deal. I’ve never even heard of this deal.

Well, I'm sorry to say that the deal was struck already and it doesn't matter your feelings on the subject. I honestly abhor it as anything else feminist but I can't do anything about it, so you are incorrect in that I agreed to this deal.

Notice I'm only saying how it is, I'm not prescribing or advocating here.

If you don't agree to the deal that is fine and your right, but recognize that it will be difficult if not impossible to void as it was made by society at large and a single individual won't affect it.

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Gender is merely a social construct is a first principle of feminism and also provably incorrect.

Everything follows from this faulty first step, including swapping genders and/or sex by simply declaring it so.

yes, I agree. In my head sex is the same as gender, it was how I learned about the world and think gender roles are made up bullshit.

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