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PaperclipPerfector  1yr ago (text post)   2385 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for November 3, 2023

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I think it's mostly a labor-saving measure, although modern AI art will help a lot with that.

I play a lot of AVNs, and I see that the quality of 3D art is a smooth slope. Anyone can set up a content pipeline with some mildly customized assets and start churning out a new render for each line, the biggest limiting factor is probably their GPU. Getting the renders to look good and not uncanny probably doubles the work, getting the animations to look good probably quadruples it.

2D art required a real artist to even start making something. That's why most, if not all, 2D VNs stick to blurred backgrounds and a few posed images of the characters for the majority of the scenes, with only the pivotal scenes switching to a few full-screen drawings with the characters in more dynamic poses. Animating 2D art is much, much harder. Tools like Live2D and Spine are incredibly labor-saving, but the barrier to entry is super high, as you can't just draw the key frames and hire some lesser artists to do the in-betweens. You have to know which scenes can look good with Live2D, how to break down your first key frame into pieces and rig them to make the animation. And it still won't let you do something like this, the vast majority of Live2D animations looks barely better than Saturday morning Hannah-Barbera classics.

In a couple of years AI art will help a lot. Right now, there's not enough LORAs or what's their name that let you churn out images in the style you want and almost everyone uses the one that has the same energy as polystyrene moldings. It forgets tiny details between different drawings, so animations are right out. But all of this can and will be fixed. I'm reasonably sure Disney is currently busy making AI tools that will let it go back to lavish 2D animation and open-source tools will catch up with Disney a few years later.

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