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Israel-Gaza Megathread #3
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
I'm making a point of saving this for later, in the event I want to fire a nuclear cannon of a reply to people performing apologetics on behalf of the Palestinians.
The only place where I'd even modestly disagree is in claiming that Zionism is justified today, in the sense that America and most of the West are good refuges for the Jews and have large, relatively close-knit communities who aren't at real risk of being pogrommed, current liberal tendencies included. Then again, having a patch of dirt and a flag always helps when asserting yourself, so it's not a major disagreement in the least.
I'm making a point of saving this for later, in the event I want to fire a nuclear cannon of a reply to people performing apologetics on behalf of the Palestinians.
If videos of Hamas beheading Thai workers with a shovel and shooting families in their homes and spitting on dead disfigured naked women isn't enough to move them even a millimeter, you think an article regardless of how well written it is would?
I literally know people who have seen the videos of Hamas doing all that, then distributing sweets, then celebrating it and boasting about it all, with their own motherfucking eyes, and then still claim those videos are an Israeli false flag and Hamas actually wanted to just free Al-Aqsa, which is 100 fucking kilometres away from the Border.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Like how do you even deal with that level of willful ignorance?
That's well beyond the ability of even nukes to solve, you need something like a relativistic kill vehicle to handle that..
I'm talking about the less insane, the people who are broadly sympathetic to the Palestinians as poor oppressed innocent folk being bullied by mean Israel. While I don't expect it to sway all of them, this serves as a spread of buckshot right at the heart of most of the common objections. I'll probably link the Substack post, seems more official than the Motte.
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I know an AAQC when I see one..
I'm making a point of saving this for later, in the event I want to fire a nuclear cannon of a reply to people performing apologetics on behalf of the Palestinians.
The only place where I'd even modestly disagree is in claiming that Zionism is justified today, in the sense that America and most of the West are good refuges for the Jews and have large, relatively close-knit communities who aren't at real risk of being pogrommed, current liberal tendencies included. Then again, having a patch of dirt and a flag always helps when asserting yourself, so it's not a major disagreement in the least.
If videos of Hamas beheading Thai workers with a shovel and shooting families in their homes and spitting on dead disfigured naked women isn't enough to move them even a millimeter, you think an article regardless of how well written it is would?
I literally know people who have seen the videos of Hamas doing all that, then distributing sweets, then celebrating it and boasting about it all, with their own motherfucking eyes, and then still claim those videos are an Israeli false flag and Hamas actually wanted to just free Al-Aqsa, which is 100 fucking kilometres away from the Border.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Like how do you even deal with that level of willful ignorance?
That's well beyond the ability of even nukes to solve, you need something like a relativistic kill vehicle to handle that..
I'm talking about the less insane, the people who are broadly sympathetic to the Palestinians as poor oppressed innocent folk being bullied by mean Israel. While I don't expect it to sway all of them, this serves as a spread of buckshot right at the heart of most of the common objections. I'll probably link the Substack post, seems more official than the Motte.
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