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Friday Fun Thread for October 27, 2023

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I'm a boxing fan, not an MMA fan, and I didn't watch it but I get the impression that Fury figured this was just going to be a warm-up and didn't take it as seriously as he probably should have, especially since it wasn't a sanctioned event and didn't count for everything. The other part of it is that boxers these days aren't as athletic overall as MMA guys so the clinching strategy doesn't work as well. Like you said, MMA guys have more experience in the clinch so they aren't tired out as easily, but they're also better able to avoid the clinch, though I don't know if this was really part of it in this match since I didn't see it. Most boxing since Tyson has just been big, lumbering guys who try to overpower each other and hope the other guy gets tired out. This is in contrast to boxers from, say, the 60s, who were actually able to bob and weave and land punches due to skill and not due to simply tiring the other guy out. It seems like every time I watch a boxing match, no matter the level, they all end in TKOs after one guy gets ground down to the point that he can no longer defend himself.

Yep, heavy hands podcast and Jack Slack have the same analysis of it. Had fury just outboxed him instead of trying to get him out early, he would have won easily.

but I get the impression that Fury figured this was just going to be a warm-up and didn't take it as seriously as he probably should have

Isn't this the story of Fury's life? I can't count how many times I've heard this.

It seems like every time I watch a boxing match, no matter the level, they all end in TKOs after one guy gets ground down to the point that he can no longer defend himself.

Yeah, that'd be a bad plan. It took Stipe being a much better boxer AND outwrestling him AND Ngannou throwing recklessly to wear out Francis in the first fight and, even near-dead from exhaustion, he still didn't get KOed or submitted.

He rarely gets rocked, even with 4-oz gloves. In fact, Stipe thinking he rocked him with a counter is what got him KOed in their rematch

I don't know if he watched old tape of Francis from the first Stipe fight or what, but he's learned to be more measured and patient and not punch himself out. If Fury wanted to wear him down he was gonna have to work harder than waiting for Ngannou to come to him and he didn't.

Stipe was also 50-60 lbs lighter given how much weight ngannou cuts, that is like 3 weight classes

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