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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
And by the way: good for them. I, a Catholic American, am jealous (although jealous is the wrong word since that sortof implies an animosity, which I have none of) of the power that the Jewish people have.
Hm, I'm wondering if there's a term for that, jealousy without animosity. Would "admiration" capture the meaning?
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Perhaps envy? Checking myself on perceived connotation, this blog post says:
Many people interchange the words envy and jealousy without causing much confusion. You can say Joshua is envious or Joshua is jealous, and your audience will most likely understand the message you’re trying to convey. However, these two words have different meanings. Read on if you want to use these words precisely, and make your friends envious that you know the difference.
Envy is the longing to have what someone else has, whether it be attributes or possessions. Envy requires only two parties—you and someone else. For example, you may envy another student because they got a good grade on the exam, but you didn’t.
To feel jealous means “to feel threatened, insecure, or protective of something you already have (especially in a romantic sense).” Whereas envy requires two parties, jealousy requires three. For example, you might feel jealous of your best friend’s new friend because you feel as if you might get replaced.
So perhaps @firmamenti isn't jealous of Israel, as he doesn't hold a grudge against them or the Jewish diaspora, but he is envious of their ability to wield religious identity as both a shield and a weapon.
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Hm, I'm wondering if there's a term for that, jealousy without animosity. Would "admiration" capture the meaning?
Perhaps envy? Checking myself on perceived connotation, this blog post says:
So perhaps @firmamenti isn't jealous of Israel, as he doesn't hold a grudge against them or the Jewish diaspora, but he is envious of their ability to wield religious identity as both a shield and a weapon.
The way I understand the words, envy is when you want what others have and jealousy is when you don't want others to have what you have.
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Yeah admiration is close. But it’s like admiration but also some form of sadness or sense of failing for not having the same thing.
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