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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
But the point is generally that no Arab country will recognize Israel and normalize relations unless there's some carrot involved, and these carrots are usually the kind of thing that appeals more to the higher levels of government than to the average citizen; I doubt that the average Moroccan cares that much about the Sarahwi Arab Democratic Republic.
There are plenty of countries where the local common man (at least the ones posting in the Internet) regularly works themselves up into an absolute lather over secessionist groups trying to split their country, so I'd imagine that the Moroccans would be quite similar.
It's possible, but those are usually in places where a local minority wants to separate territory that's already a well-established part of the larger country. Western Sahara was annexed in the late-1970s, which led to a war lasting over a decade, and the dispute has never been resolved. It's closer to a colonial issue than it is to, say, Basque separatists in Spain or Kurdish nationalists in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
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There are plenty of countries where the local common man (at least the ones posting in the Internet) regularly works themselves up into an absolute lather over secessionist groups trying to split their country, so I'd imagine that the Moroccans would be quite similar.
It's possible, but those are usually in places where a local minority wants to separate territory that's already a well-established part of the larger country. Western Sahara was annexed in the late-1970s, which led to a war lasting over a decade, and the dispute has never been resolved. It's closer to a colonial issue than it is to, say, Basque separatists in Spain or Kurdish nationalists in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
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