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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 18, 2023

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it was a similar kind of evasiveness on /u/CanIHaveASong's part

I was not evasive. I meant what I said about it being society. Perhaps I could have been more specific and said, "mainstream society". It's not just feminist sources pushing this culture: It's songs, it's movies, it's TV shows. It's in the assumptions college professors have for their students and students have for eachother. It's most dates (even the ones my 60 year old aunt went on!). Do you think most men who expect women to sleep with them on the first date expect this because they are feminists? No! It's become society's norm. It's not specifically feminism, even if feminism is currently one of its champions. Perhaps it is the progressive-hedonistic-utopian memeplex that's dominant in the voices that get promoted by mainstream society these days? But there's the word I used: Society. Simply saying society is good enough for me.

Thank you for your clarification, but I still disagree with you.

It's not just feminist sources pushing this culture: It's songs, it's movies, it's TV shows. It's in the assumptions college professors

College professors, Hollywood movies and TV shows, and American pop songs being famed for their rabid opposition to feminism.

Do you think most men who expect women to sleep with them on the first date expect this because they are feminists?

Just because the bootleggers gained financially from prohibition, doesn't mean that prohibition wasn't fought for by the baptists.

I'm not saying that the only people saying "hey, casual sex is cool" are feminists - obviously teen sex comedies, sitcoms etc. do that too. But the specific adjective you used was "empowering", and I honestly can't remember the last time I heard that adjective used in conversation by someone who didn't openly, loudly identify themselves as feminist. There may be many kinds of sources telling young women that casual sex is fun, cool, exciting etc. but I think it's reasonable to assume that the only people telling young women that casual sex is empowering are feminists.