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Wellness Wednesday for August 23, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Agree. Though I’ll note I posted it back here cuz felt more mental healthy to talk about how ideas pop thru the internet and the feel good feeling when someone widely viewed as smart says an idea you think you were somewhat novel on.

My original post was subtly a hbd type thing where black IQ average is supposedly low 80’s. But I don’t think the average athlete is that low. And many seem to be significantly higher. I think I’m just chilling in the bailey and Cowen is pushing it farther.

Yeah I just couldn't resist talking about football, too excited for the season starting.

The HBD point is kind of interesting, because both of the main 'black' sports have a much greater selection for body type which would presumably crowd out a lot of athletes who are smart but don't have the right body. But, while basketball does demand some serious tactical nous and on-the-spot thinking, american football is much more about getting really big guys and having them follow specific tactics to ram into each other, while giving themselves traumatic brain injuries - and when I think of famous black athletes doing really stupid stuff, it's pretty much all american football players and not NBA players.

Also I think both of us have confused motte and bailey here, I meant to say that the motte of your point is sound but I'm not sure about Cowen's bailey.

Some reason I confuse them a lot and went with your usage.

Basketball I feel like you are constantly running probabilities in your head. Is the three better than the pass for that guys cut for a lay up. Lineman frequently make a decision of two unblocked guys which one would be better to grab.

Although it depends somewhat on how “famous” is defined, NFL rosters are about 3-4x larger than those of the NBA, plus there are two more NFL teams than NBA. So there is a larger pool of NFL players available to provide colorful off-field/off-court behavior.