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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 14, 2023

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The original choice was

The blue versus red choice is metaphorically "do you want to be shoved out the window of a twenty storey building, or do you want to stand in the middle of the room well away from it?" What person is going to go "yes, please shove me out a window"?

Must I repeat myself? Reframe the question and the answer changes, as you well know.

That's the problem: if there are fifty thousand people and I know that 24,999 picked blue, then clearly I must pick blue to save them. But I don't know that, so why am I immoral for picking red, if there's just as good a chance that the other 49,999 people before me picked red?

You're not picking blue for yourself, you're picking for everyone similar to you. In other words everyone with the same reasoning process. People with different reasoning processes may come to different conclusions. So the odds that your reasoning process tips the scales is far greater than the odds that everyone with different reasoning processes picks red.

Reframe the question and the answer changes, as you well know.

Which is what the Blues are doing in order to come out ahead as the Good Guys. Toddlers in blenders and who knows what-all, when the original was simply "pick the red or pick the blue".

Reframes the question

Aha, reframing the question is a thing blues do to virtue signal!

You'd have more ground to stand on here if you hadn't just done exactly what you accuse your opponents of doing and pretended you had a point.

And I don't think things like toddlers participating is reframing the question. It's virtually guaranteed that at least one will, under the original framing of the question.