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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 7, 2023

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This is a minor point but isn't the more obvious argument against pregnant mothers doing meth (from the perspective of an advocate for late-term abortion) is that there is a chance the baby will be born with severe disabilities and have a lot of trouble throughout their life because of that? It seems logically consistent to believe both that killing fetuses is basically fine and that doing things that will result in children who experience needless suffering is not fine. I realize Lance didn't reach for that justification and that perhaps reveals something about his moral intuitions, but the "what about meth" argument doesn't actually seem like much of a gotcha to me.

I think the better question for pro choice people is “Did you support my body my choice really covid vax?”.

the "what about meth" argument doesn't actually seem like much of a gotcha to me.

I didn't intend to present that question as generalizable gotcha, rather my focus was on how Lance responded to it. I'm sure there's plenty of principled responses you could make to the question but Lance instead reflexively resorted to "you shouldn't kill a child" which I thought was quite revealing about what he really believes.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I agree it may be revealing about what Lance himself believes (perhaps I didn't indicate that clearly enough). I just wanted to comment that there are pretty good responses to this question, even for the most die-hard of abortion advocates.

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