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Wellness Wednesday for August 2, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Are stiffness/body pains different from flexibility?

I carry a lot of stiffness around with me to the point I think it worsens my quality of life. I assume it's mostly from prior manual labor plus current weight lifting and running (which unfortunately I'm not willing to stop), so I've always tried to address it with yoga. I spend a chunk of time each day on deep stretches, especially in the points that bother me...and it maybe kinda works? Objectively I've gotten a lot more flexible but honestly my body feels to me just as borked as ever, my neck uncomfortably stiff and aching most times, my lower back hurting noticeably if I stand too long (but not while walking or running for whatever reason). Am I just doing something that doesn't really have any impact on what I'm actually trying to fix? If so, is there something other people have done that's helped with body aches/stiffness? (I've also tried switching up pillows a few times for my neck but not much luck).

Yeah I agree with @TowardsPanna, there’s a lot of stuff with chronic tension/muscular pain we just don’t understand at all.

Some people say it’s emotions, some people say there are trigger points, there are literally a million explanations. Painscience.org is a good starting place if you’re curious.

Basically chronic pain and tension usually aren’t a purely mechanical phenomenon, and treating them as such won’t get you far.

Thanks for the link, I appreciate it

Sarno's Healing Back Pain could help, or also see https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/06/26/book-review-unlearn-your-pain/

both are along the same lines as the other comment

Thanks, that was an interesting read to look through.

Well yes, they can be.

Neck and lower back pain are often associated with psychosomatic tensions. You may be carrying old stressors and anxieties in the body. They tend to get stuck there in humans, while animals tend to just shake them off after each event. Or, you may be on a day to day basis in your current life be tensing up your neck and back every time something evokes aversion, irritation, fear, etc in you. When the mind doesn't know exactly how to deal with a stressor, it will use the body to reflect the unresolved emotion and store it. If you had averse childhood events and/or insecure attachment to one or both of your parents, you're far more likely to get all sorts of stress related bodily issues as an adult. In that case, even light insults to the bodymind may, on a subconscious level, be treated as being quite similar to a much more serious thing in your life history and trigger old patterns.

I may be missing the mark completely here, but I thought I'd mention it anyway, just in case. There are ways to deal with it, let me know if you want info.

There are ways to deal with it, let me know if you want info.

I would definitely appreciate that, thanks

I tried to PM you but got a 405 error. :/