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I had a look at the posts on tildes you linked and I'm flabbergasted myself. Maybe this is because I spent most of my time on forums which made themselves egregiously offensive on purpose in order to drive away people incapable of rising above those base responses, maybe it's just all the Nietzsche I've been reading... but the posters there seem absolutely pathetic and, despite their pretensions, utterly incapable of holding interesting conversations or opinions.
When you're so terrified of giving oxygen to the wrong kind of people or views that you demand the janitors sweep these horrifying, low-status opinions away because even seeing them causes you significant distress, you are fundamentally incapable of participating in a serious discussion on the topic. I might not agree with the neonazis, feminists, neocons or anarchosyndicalists but I have no problem reading their takes or views (I actually find engaging with beliefs I do not hold myself to be fun!) - if their arguments are bad I get to laugh at them, and if they're good then I get to have fun engaging with them seriously. But either way I actually understand their position and what they're arguing about. Without an understanding of what your opponents actually believe, how can you possibly talk intelligently about the issues that motivate them, let alone claim to have the correct position on an issue when you only understand one side's arguments?
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