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I am not claiming that Putin is a genocidal maniac, and their action while evil and qualifying as war crimes are not Third Reich levels. Though we had terror bombing, kidnappings, rape/looting as accepted (though not sure how high) and so on. But I am aware that all that is relatively normal in war and their main evil was starting war.
Based on their inability to understand that they are not entitled to USSR territory and that their security concerns are not trumping everyones elses security concerns.
I am not 100% naive idealist, that would not work :)
No, likely also war but with less bombing of civilian targets and less hilarious incompetence. Very likely ending with lower civilian death count and lower destruction. And lesser oppression during occupation.
I am claiming that I would prefer to be invaded by USA than Russia, but even more prefer to be not invaded in the first place. And no, I will not buy this books.
Did they not make overtures to avoid it? Because they certainly did.
Where did Putin ever claim as much? Go ahead and quote him. I’ll wait.
I wasn’t aware their track record was as bad as the US war in Iraq.
You also seem to prefer being more interested in answering your own questions, and not those that were asked if you. I think this is a good place to leave this conversation.
Or even read them. Be well.
I have not claimed that Putin personally did so, but I think that https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-unveils-security-guarantees-says-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/ is enough
"withdrawal of multinational NATO battalions from Poland and from the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania that were once in the Soviet Union" alone is a nonstarter. And given that Polish army existing at all is also NATO military activity in Eastern Europe this is a total nonstarter.
Oh, and we have
Sounds pretty weak if he wants a security arrangement that’s analogous to what the US imposed on Japan, after World War 2. And given that the Clinton administration immediately broke its commitment to Gorbachev, to not advance one inch to the East, only to immediately expand NATO to the borders of Russia, I can’t say I blame him for wanting such a guarantee. It’s pretty clear you aren’t dealing with honest actors at that point.
I’ll be sure to remind him to let the US know in advance, next time. Maybe you can admonish the Biden Administration not to follow in the footsteps of the even more egregious infractions of the Neoconservative foreign policy establishment.
Russia trying to impose on Poland this kind of arrangements is not going to fly and is not going to happen and Russia is not capable of achieving this. And would be unreasonable, absurd and unfair, though that obviously does not matter much.
Russia was either delusional or not even trying to actually negotiate or just insulting or multiple at once.
USA was fully aware of it, Putin's permission was not necessary
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