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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 12, 2022

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A lot of your posts have this following pattern.

  • Right wingers always accuse left wingers for booing their outgroup.

  • Here's an example of something the right did that also boos the outgroup.

  • Some people in the motte are sympathetic to those people. Principles not withstanding.

  • Woe is me? ("laughing at my pearl clutching is absolutely the point.")

You might benefit from leaving out the <woe is me'ing>. Right wingers here do that too, and they do receive less baseline pushback, but I am not a fan of that.

I am saying this because that tone specifically acts as a lightning rod and makes people hostile to you even if they weren't initially going to be. In a "ohh it sucks for you? well it sucks for me too, and its because of your people!" way.

Basically you are putting a big signboard on your back saying "HEY I AM THE OUTGROUP, LOOK AT ME, PUNCH ME HARDER, I WILL GET MAD AND YOU WILL LIKE IT".

Thanks for the earnest feedback. I'm not 100% certain I follow what you're trying to say, as I don't think I said anything about reds accusing blues of booing their outgroup. Unless you were referring to an older post?

I can try to take what you say to heart, but I suspect so long as I'm going against the grain the response will be fraught.

Yes, I am referring to a pattern. Which obviously older includes posts by you. The one that comes to mind is one you made on the topic of political violence, and framed it in a "When the right wingers here talk about political violence, I feel targeted because I am just an innocent left wing guy who has x,y,z opinions, so do you really want to kill me?"

And many responses were along the lines of "yes I do want to kill you".

My suggestion is that you can avoid that entirely by not making it personal. You can frame it as "innocent people with sincerely held beliefs but not operating in bad faith can get caught in the crossfire of political violence" and it will probably be met with much less vitriol.

In short maybe don't clutch your pearls?

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