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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 8, 2023

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This matches with my own experience, rich Indian friends I know will have beautiful interior designed apartments with $10,000 chairs and $200,000 kitchens and the exterior looks like project housing in Baltimore completed in 1974, crumbling concrete, chipping paint, a grotty lobby, grass growing between paving tiles outside. It’s crazy.

Feels like home. Does India have issues with blocks of flats belonging and not belonging to the owners of the flats at the same time? Russia allowed residents to privatize their Soviet-built flats, and technically this comes with the ownership of the proportional share of the common areas, but the remaining flats and common areas belong to the municipality, the land the building stands on usually belongs to the municipality too, so the final result is a far cry from a proper condominium. Most people treat the building maintenance as someone else's problem, and even if you want to change how your building is managed, it's an uphill struggle against people either indifferent to or deeply suspicious of your plans.

That seems quite insightful, thank you. I did finally reach Bangkok after writing my initial post, and it's a boring normal Asian city, without any freaks and geeks I could make a point of pointing out.

I could shed some light on the behavior of the rich in India. In living memory, my immediate family broke through from from upper middle class to lower upper class, if that's a sensible delineation. That means that we could afford BMWs or a million dollar house if we wanted them (the housing market in India is absolutely fucked in larger cities like Mumbai, so the idea of a million dollar house isn't even that big of a deal). Hell, we're staying at 5 star hotels now, which wasn't something we really did when I grew up. While I don't quite move in the strata of the uber wealthy, I can more or less make a decent assessment:

Wealthy Indians are accustomed to tragedy of the commons in every sphere of public life. Immense wealth will buy you a lovely mansion, but nothing will get you a clean city outside.

As such, we're calibrated in a manner such that when considering our relative social standing, we simply don't put much weight on the exterior of our residence, while lavishly decking out the interiors is something we can all agree upon and enjoy.

It's so ingrained in our culture that it takes a culture shock on the order of moving out of the country, where such things are taken seriously, for us to really change.

Wealthy Indians are accustomed to tragedy of the commons in every sphere of public life. Immense wealth will buy you a lovely mansion, but nothing will get you a clean city outside.

Have y'all tried home owners associations for general upkeep, and getting a specifically funded unit of local cops to fine anyone littering or otherwise dirtying the place? (or mob to harass...)

It's a country of 1.4 billion people, I'm sure someone somewhere has tried everything under the sun!

That being said, HOAs aren't common for privately owned detached houses, they are however, a thing in apartment complexes, and such gated complexes are usually significantly cleaner.