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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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Why should any man care? If the hobby can't 'maintain' men, for whatever reason, then you won't get men. It's of no greater consequence to the average 'bloke' that there aren't any men on some literary prize list than it is of consequence to them that 'Crochet Weekly' didn't feature many men yet again.

I mean, isn't it equally sad that the modding scene for Battlefield 1942 is dead? So much amazing work, some many hours of entertainment. Amazing feats of skill, long lasting friendships, memories of people who worked and played tirelessly for nothing other than love for their craft.

Men tend to just do great things wherever they are. Any creative exercise done by men has the potential to appeal to other men which snowballs itself further and further until the entire thing meets its end and the next thing takes its place. This is a process that has, for all my life, perpetuated itself without any need or input from women or some arbiter of what is good and what is bad. In fact I've only ever seen it hampered by the presence of women or these sorts of arbiters.

To paraphrase a young African American scholar: 'All a nigga knows is all a nigga loves'. There seems to be this unexamined notion that womens hobbies matter. Or that they should matter. Or that what happens around them matters. Which seems fueled entirely by womens sense of self importance. When the reality is that none of it matters any more than some random dead modding scene or that one flash animation on Newgrounds that no one will ever watch again.

Why should any man care?

What if you're a man and you want to read a book, and publisher shenanigans mean that books for you won't get published?

Then you can care all you want. Just like there are a few guys who still care enough to update an 19 year old mod for a 21 year old game that is played by less than a few hundred people.

"Not many books are published for men" does not mean "not many men want to buy books".

The 19 year old mod is both hard to get and not something many people want. The publishing industry situation is basically a principal/agent problem where the things that get published don't follow the market.

I didn't say that was the case.

If you started marketing Battlefield 1942 I'm sure plenty of people would start playing it again. That doesn't answer the question of why that should be done or be considered important. Why should a bunch of women care about publishing books for 'blokes'? These women seem perfectly happy reveling in the current situation.

If you started marketing Battlefield 1942 I'm sure plenty of people would start playing it again.

Battlefield 1942 was marketed back when it was new and at some point people stopped buying it despite the marketing. So I don't think this is true.

They stopped buying it, not playing it. That happened with the release of new games, primarily Battlefield 2.

But that's all very much besides the point, which pertained to why, if you had the ability to funnel attention to something, it should be done. Sure, your hobby feels important to you. But that's what everyone feels towards their hobby.

Someone hasn't seen The Sims 4 modding, it's run by women for women (and trains too of course)

???

What part are you incredulous about? The fact that the majority of modders there are women, or that a significant fraction are trans?

That it has any relevance to what I wrote.

Uh.. You just made a big statement about how modding is a male phenomena, while I am in complete agreement that it's majority male overall, the Sims is a big franchise that has an overwhelmingly female modding base.

It's a knock against your grand theory, which isn't to say that you're wrong overall, just overstating the point.

You just made a big statement about how modding is a male phenomena

No I didn't.

That a significant number of Sims players are trains, of course.

(I’ll show myself out)

Just in case you're out of the loop, people often use "trains" as a way to refer to trans people in contexts where they dont want to draw the Eye of Sauron for saying anything negative about them. More on Reddit, given how the jannies act.

I was definitely out of the loop. Thanks for the heads up.

That would be the exception that proves the rule I'd say.

Same way I'd be pretty confident in guessing that warhammer fanfiction is primarily written by and for men.

You've managed to trigger one of my pet peeves with that phrase haha

Exceptions don't prove the rule, quite literally the opposite, at least in the sense that 99.99% of people use it. Think about it, how does evidence against a hypothesis strengthen it?

I looked up the origins of the phrase, and it's been hopelessly mutated, originally it was used along the lines of:

Imagine you visit a hospital and see a sign saying "visitations allowed between 4-6pm". In that case, this 'exception' proves that there's a rule that visitations aren't allowed outside this window.

Nobody uses it in that sense anymore, and it should be taken behind a shed and shot.

"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"

Pedants of the world unite! We have nothing to lose except our chains, which we can then use on others haha

You know, I actually looked up the meaning of the phrase because I was also sure it was gibberish, saw that it was gibberish and decided to use it anyway.

It seems that I'm actually just an evil man.

May your pillows always be slightly warm and moist no matter how many times you turn them 🙏

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