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The difference is that while within the context of northern protestant Christianity the difference between a Lutheran and a Episcopalian might seem really important, from without it really isn't. From the perspective of a Catholic, Muslim, or Jew, Protestantism is Protestantism. Or in this case, a democrat who espouses id-pol infused socialism with a post modernist framing is a democrat who espouses id-pol infused socialism with a post modernist framing. I would contend that whatever animosity the people of hair-color might hold towards weirdly neotenous white nationalists largely comes down to the narcissism of small differences.
Like I said, the enemy will always show you who they are afraid of and they are very clearly not afraid of Fuentes.
They don't appear afraid of fuentes because he doesn't have nearly the power or support trump does. If fuentes won a presidential election, that'd change.
You didn't address any of the differences in views between fuentes and progressives? If you asked a progressive to list the political views or issues they cared the most about, fuentes would strongly disagree with them.
Whatever differences there are between progressives and Fuentes are irrelevant. Dude is not going to win an election unless he runs as a progressive and the progressive's know that. Hence the lack of fear, hence the claim that he is "controlled opposition"
Fuentes isn't winning elections whether he runs as a progressive or right-winger? Are you claiming he might run as a progressive?
This suggests that anyone who can't win elections is controlled opposition?? Which is bizzare. If I'm so extreme right or left I can't win elections due to unpopularity, that doesn't suddenly make me controlled opposition
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That's putting the cart before the horse though. You're assuming it's a small difference.
Both might engage in identity politics, but on opposite sides. Which is arguably more of a practical difference.
The woke left is a subset of identity politics. The white nationalist right is a subset of identity politics. But that gap is pretty severe.
Its more of a "real" Satanist (i.e. not atheists) vs Christian difference rather than 2 sects of Christianity. They both believe that God and Satan exist yes but their actions will be very different. If real Satanists commit acts the Devil likes as part of their practice it's likely that Christians and say Hindus would be closer to each other practically than either are to the devil worshippers even if the Christians and devil worshippers share the same cosmology and underpinning belief system, whereas the Christians and Hindus do not.
And my argument is that it's not. That democrats engaging in identity politics are democrats engaging in identity politics regardless of what side they claim to be on. Like I said, within within the context of northern protestant Christianity the difference between a Lutheran and a Episcopalian might seem really important, but from the perspective of a Catholic, Muslim, or Jew, Protestantism is Protestantism.
I maintain Satanist vs Christian is the better comparison, same underlying belief system very different conclusions and actions.
Whereas branches of Protestantism are going to act much the same at a macro level (If we count Quakers, perhaps excepted) , a white nationalist and a woke leftist are going to be pushing for very different worlds.
Thats why I am saying you put the cart before the horse, you claim its a minor difference but you're not actually making an argument to demonstrate that.
In 20 years an out and out white supremacist America, would look very different than an out and out woke leftist one. At a bare minimum which groups are favored by various policies would definitionally be different. The philosophical underpinning of identity politics may be the same, but WHICH identities they champion are very different.
That's not a tiny difference, its one that fundamentally changes what kind of world and government would be created.
I'll endorse that, with the emphasis that at the end of the day it is the same underlying belief system.
I agree there, but as an atheist (and therefore with a different belief system entirely) I can still recognize that I would probably rather have a Christian neighbour than a Satanist (again a "real" Satanist, i would probably get on with the atheists cosplaying as the Church of Satan) because their actions will be different, as the expression of their belief system is so radically opposed.
In other words having the same belief system doesn't mean the morality of their actions (from my point of view) is equal.
Sure they are from my position both wrong about their beliefs, but one is wrong and involves the memetic Satanic child sacrifice and the other is wrong and involves potentially moralizing at me about gay marriage and abortion.
So as a non-progressive non-woke neoliberal center leftist I am still going to prefer the woke to white nationalists even if they are both built atop the same framework.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty...
When Trump met with Nick Fuentes, the media hydra wasn't crying about the dangerous Trump subverting the innocent Hispanic young adult, was it?
Why be afraid of Fuentes anyway?
He's a 25 years old college drop-out.
Fans of the of the show like to tell themselves this but they are lying to themselves.
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