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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 6, 2023

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witness accounts are not sufficient evidence to establish what is being claimed.

I agree on this point, broadly speaking.

That is good for you to acknowledge, but you are not interpreting the eyewitness accounts critically. For example, you take it for granted for granted that the entire 2 hectares of area conceivably had burial pits of 10 meters deep. No pits of 10 meters have been identified nor excavated, but apparently you do not require any physical investigation of these 10 meter pits in order to be sure they existed. The area burial density is unlike any other grave in human history, not even close. It is not plausible absent concrete, physical evidence which does not exist. Of those 2 hectares, 0% has been shown to actually cover mass graves of any depth, much less mass graves 10 meters deep for the entire area.

A million people buried in 2 hectares would be by far the most dense grave of carcasses in human history. It's not a plausible claim unless there is significant physical evidence to support it, and there is not. You rely on witness testimony to assert the plausibility of the claims.

Edit: A Revisionist has also compared burial density of other (real) concentration camp mass graves to the alleged Treblinka mass graves. Again, the real concentration camp graves resemble other known mass graves and the Treblinka mass graves you are alleging resemble nothing in history.

Furthermore, the historical position is not that these claims are plausible, it's that they are certain and there is no doubt the claims are true. Your assertion that "if 100% of 2 hectares was one giant pit that was 10 meters deep then it would be plausible" is a weak position in the face of official historiography, which has a much stronger position than "plausible."

Do you also think it's "plausible" that 5,000-7,000 people were cremated on outdoor pyres every single day? Do you think the truth of that claim is as certain as it is claimed by mainstream historiography? Do you also think it's plausible that these cremations were done without fuel?

You clearly know much more about Treblinka than I do, so I'm not sure if I can provide any good counterarguments. Let's suppose, then, for the sake of the argument, that the archaeological evidence for the "official narrative" is insufficient. That means we don't know what exactly was done with the Jews.

Other evidence exists for the claim that over 700,000 people were killed at Treblinka, such as the Höfle Telegram and the Korherr Report. But looking at them, thanks to the euphemisms used, I suppose they might also be interpreted as supporting the transit camp theory.

However, you did not address the question in my previous post: if Treblinka was merely a transit camp, where did the Jews transit from there? Where were the hundreds of thousands of eyewitnesses after the war who testified that they passed through Treblinka and were peacefully resettled?

And more broadly, demographic data has millions of Jews unaccounted for after the war. Where did they all go? Or do you accept the rest of the "official narrative" and are only sceptical with regard to Treblinka? Auschwitz had proper crematoria, with fuel and everything – do you believe that over a million people were killed there?

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