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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 9, 2023

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He donated to both parties, and the press is aware, and has an easy narrative. I for one do not concur.

SBF claims to have donated equally to both parties but I'm skeptical. The only evidence offered in the article is SBF's own statements and I think you'd have to be an idiot to take him at his word at this stage.

Which seems more likely? That SBF was funneling something in the realm of 40 million dollars a year through various intermediaries to the GOP and was successfully able to hide this from everyone until now. or a man who has already been exposed as a liar and a fraud is continuing to lie.

He and Singh were major donors to the Democrats (Singh it seems out of conviction and separately), while Salame donated to the Republicans. Much less than to the Dems, but it was the usual "business donates to both sets of politicians so they will have an in with both sides for their own advantage" type of deal.

OpenSecrets has a breakdown of donations here, but the numbers aren't $40 million. On the other hand, his mother is involved with a PAC ("She is a co-founder of the political fundraising organization Mind the Gap, which advocates for Democratic Party candidates and funds get-out-the-vote groups") and he steered contributions towards his brother's group around pandemics, and a lot of that went on buying fancy townhouses to host parties for the lobbyists and members of both parties, so he definitely could have gone up and over $40 million in various spending.

This is another article claiming the donations totalled $71 million or more. Bankman-Fried donated personally mainly to Democrats, but he had his CEO Salame donate to Republicans - I guess Mommy wouldn't have understood why Sammy was giving his own money to the nasty GOP.

I'm not talking bout FTX.us I'm talking about Sam Bankman Fried, which open secrets lists among it's "top donors" as having donated 38.8 million to Democratic causes during the 2022 election cycle.

I agree on that, but he seems to have done his donating through FTX and not merely his own personal fortune (which he now claims he doesn't have, anyway). This is where him giving interviews is shooting himself in the foot, because he later claimed to have personally donated to the Republicans as well, and there's not much sign of it. The "I did it via dark money" can't be proven one way or the other. Openly available figures are that he/associates gave much more to the Democrats than the Republicans. He did donate to Republican candidates but not in the same amounts of money. For 2020 all the donations went to Democrats because he was fully backing the election of Joe Biden.

He did cynically/realistically donate to both parties (your opinion on this will depend on your view of both parties) and he did it to get the kind of legislation around crypto, and favourable regulating, that he wanted pushed. He claims now that he had to hide donating to Republicans because of the circles he moved in, and I don't doubt it - his parents, Stanford, MIT, Bay Area, EA, and the whole circus are signed up to "The Republicans are the Evil Party". So admitting out loud he was giving money to get certain Republican candidates elected/re-elected would have gotten him excommunicated from the circles he wanted to be in.

I don't see this as hypocrisy, because it's standard behaviour for business everywhere: you donate to both big parties because you can't afford to be on bad terms even with the 'enemy' side. People who believe Republicans are all Trump-worshippers and Trump is Literal Anti-Christ will of course see this as treasonous, as giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and all the bad things: helping the party of anti-immigration, of racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia, of science denial and climate change denial? How could you call yourself an EA after that?

This kind of 'saying the quiet part out loud' is why his lawyers are advising him to keep his yap shut. He might have been depressed or in a bad mood the day he gave that interview, so he took the cynical line on EA etc. and told all. Bad strategy if you're trying to develop a story about how you never did nothing wrong and sticking to that story.

Phone interview where he claims to have donated 'dark' as well as other things; the line is bad so I can't make out all he says:

I donated to both parties. I donated about the same amount to both parties this year. That was not generally known because despite Citizens United being literally the highest profile Supreme Court case of the decade and the thing everyone talks about when they talk about campaign finance, for some reason in practice no-one can possibly fathom the idea that someone in practice actually gave dark. [indistinguishable phrase] So, I don’t know, all my Republican donations were dark. And the reason was not for regulatory reasons, it’s because reporters freak the fuck out if you donate to Republican, they’re all super liberal and I didn’t want to have that fight, so I made all the Republican ones dark.

True? Sorta true? Lying for some reason? Who knows? His rationale seems to be that donating to candidates has maximum effect when you do it for the primaries, because that's where you can influence what candidates get picked. So, presumably, he wanted candidates selected that would be favourable to his interests, which means Republicans interested in crypto and/or seen as moderates. Much the same strategy as that allegedly used by the Democrats in the mid-term elections where they supported extreme Republicans candidates in the primary selections, knowing they would then lose in the election itself.

and was successfully able to hide this from everyone until now.

One of the charges on the indictment was campaign finance law violations

and?

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