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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 2, 2023

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main internal religious conflict is between the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, long considered schismatic by other Orthodox churches but currently considered canonical by the Ecumenical Patriarchate and some other local Orthodox churches, and Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate)

That is interesting to learn. I wasn't aware of the divided Orthodox churches, and mentally processed the news of the ban as a ban on the Orthodox Church as a whole.

The war has almost certainly made Ukrainians more positive about LGBT+ affairs

Is there some poll indicating this?

Ukraine is one of those countries where most Westerners interface with only a small educated liberal cohort so I suppose this skews understanding what is really happening on the ground vs what those people wish. For example from your post I am realizing that I drew the wrong conclusions about the legal enshrining of LGBTQ+ rights from browsing the English language Ukraine subreddit where any gesture in that direction is greatly amplified.

That is interesting to learn. I wasn't aware of the divided Orthodox churches, and mentally processed the news of the ban as a ban on the Orthodox Church as a whole.

The Orthodox church issue in Ukraine is really kind of infuriating in the way that it's a really thorny problem in the Orthodox world (and the Ukrainian church issues have been a minefield in online Orthodox discussions for a long time now), scarcely understood outside of the Orthodox circles at all, and most Orthodox sources one can find online are "Moscow partisans" (not necessarily members of Moscow Patriarchate affliated churches, but still holding their general perspective, ie. that UOC-MP is the only canonical church and OCU is schismatic and thus not really Orthodox, which allows for straightforward statements like "Zelenskyy is banning Orthodox church in Ukraine").

I can try to effortpost on this if someone is interested.

Sure go ahead!

Is there some poll indicating this?

Yes, here, for example.

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