This is the first intermission of đ¯, listed as season 1 episode 7 for filing purposes. In this episode, TracingWoodgrains, MasterThief, The Sultan Of Swing, XantosCell, and Unsaying discuss religious community.
This discussion was originally slated to be released as an episode of the The Bailey podcast, but eventually it was decided that it should be published elsewhere instead, and so it finds its home here, at đ¯.
The image used in the video is Julius Schnorr von Carolsfeld's Pentecost woodcut for "Die Bibel in Bildern", 1860:
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_226.png
Show notes:
36:00 Unsaying's superintelligence of deity post: https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/a54d99/the_compression_problem/
39:47 Despite instructions made in the moment, this tangent was not cut out, as it turned out to be relevant. Normally, any requests to cut something out would be honored, but everyone involved assented to this edit of the episode.
47:03 Xantos's snake-handling video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2dlnqRDmmds
Extended show notes:
(Discussing unsuitability for marriage and the path of monasticism) https://old.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/hkesjh/comment/fwy8ofv/
https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/watching-spotlight-young-priest
https://babylonbee.com/news/dozens-of-bible-verses-come-forward-to-accuse-joel-osteen-of-abuse
(If people want more BG on heresies, i dunno) https://old.reddit.com/r/Catholicism/comments/4ihgog/extra_history_on_early_christian_schisms_pt_2/
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Notes -
Yeah, "religious" is just the default state of pre-modern-atheist communities - the differences between two of those (aside from technology) is comparable to the differences between one of them and us. And most of the, say, problems with religious communities won't be innate to their religiosity, but be practical decisions that, though related to or justified by the religion, could easily be implemented without said religion, or the religion be used to justify different practices.
You don't (contrary to a lot of modern christian rhetoric) need a person-as-God to have "purpose", "strong morals", or a non-atomized community, the "multiple gods" counterexample is obvious but non god-centered rituals and beliefs could back those up with other sources. And by extension, the reason we don't have the latter is not 'lack of christianity', but other causes leading to both.
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