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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 26, 2022

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And that IMO is the biggest problem with the manosphere - it doesn't offer you solutions to your problems, but makes you feel good for having problems.

This is one of those statements that sounds accurate, but it's probably just due to outgroup homogeneity bias.

While what you're saying is true of say...incels. I would argue that TRP is vastly more helpful than say...Men's Lib or any feminist coded version. And it's really cause it captures a few banal insights:

  1. No one cares about any ideological justification you can come up with for failing*. That's for feminists. Just try not to fail

  2. Lift weights

  3. Approach - a lot of the "marginal" men really just need to be more outgoing. All of the TRP evopsych just gives them the confidence to do it.

That's all it takes to be better than a lot of the more "progressive" versions. Simply because it emphasizes an internal locus of control rather than commiseration.

* A very common thing on /r/MensLib and other such progressive spaces is to note problems, tut tut piously about how this or that problem all caused by patriarchy (even if women are the ones driving it) and will be solved...eventually when we dismantle it. In the meantime...they have nothing for you.

I would offer an and/or for (2): get competent at something useful / popular / impressive.

  • A very common thing on /r/MensLib and other such progressive spaces is to note problems, tut tut piously about how this or that problem all caused by patriarchy (even if women are the ones driving it) and will be solved...eventually when we dismantle it. In the meantime...they have nothing for you.

Or varieties of 'yes that is a problem but we need to solve the problems of marginalized oppressed people and prior generations that resembled you had it good so fuck you'

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