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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 21, 2022

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So I'm getting an awful lot of responses in the vein of "of course they reacted like that, you responded with [logic] to [emotion] and that's no good" - ordinarily I would agree - case closed. I do get that, even if in this case I may have slipped a bit in practice. I'm generic nerd STEMy, not a complete sperg. That isn't the source of my confusion or the reason to bring it up. That's ordinary human dynamics 101 - and also not the reason I code the reaction as left.

I am confused by/reacting to/coding-as-left the specific reaction of "stop talking and let the marginalized speak" because in this case it demonstrably did not apply. Nobody marginalized spoke before or after about how they felt or what they thought aside from the literally singular sentence that maps to "I don't want to go out anymore because of fear of this" person.

THAT is what I code as left and am confused about. The idea of lived experience is not without merit. Some people have access to experiences others don't. But that's not the same as "always cede the floor, even if they aren't using it".

You are approaching this with a mistake theory mindset instead of with a conflict one. As you surmised their "stop talking and let the marginalized speak" was lefty speak for shut up, why did they do that? because you got between a bunch of lefties and the opportunity to affirm their "victimhood" to the audience and receive their backpats for their incredible bravery in existing. That is all it was, a self-masturbatory session, and you went and ruined it; with the added point that you are now probably in one or more shit lists in your group.

EDIT.- To further clarify: they used the "superweapon" because instead of acting like an ingroup member and praising the "victim" for his bravery and lamenting with the group the continued existance of white supremacy, you acted like a member of their outgroup and tried in their eyes to diminish the victimhood of one of their members.

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