...Why do you think that an act being logical would make it moral? Or vice versa for that matter?
If you want to participate in "morality", which is inextricably meshed with the experience of conscious beings, then the logic is airtight. If you choose not to participate in morality, none of this will concern you.
Do you want to reduce suffering, or do you want to increase flourishing?
You can do both, though the reduction of gratuitous suffering is more urgent.
The objection is simple, regardless of whether it is logical or not, the sort of universalist utilitarianism espoused by Singer and others is fundamentally inimical to human flourishing due to it's tendency to promote sociopathic and self-destructive behavior
Yes, "self" destructive behavior is absolutely necessary. (Sociopathic behavior has nothing to do with it.)
Self-destructive behavior is a dramatic way of saying selflessness, or the lack of selfishness. And normalizing this is a way forward.
If you want to participate in "morality", which is inextricably meshed with the experience of conscious beings, then the logic is airtight.
No, no it is not. It's only "inextricable" and "airtight" if you are a strict utilitarian.
You can do both, though the reduction of gratuitous suffering is more urgent.
Yes you can do both, but you can only have one "top priority", and there in lies the problem.
If you're curtailing other people's flourishing to aviod suffering you're a sociopath. You claim that they are not related but I don't see how they could be anything but.
As the old saw goes, everyone is equal when they are dead. Accordingly the most effective way to achieve equality is genocide. Ditto "preventing suffering". If you're going to go down the Tomasik route I'm going to call you what you are.
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If you want to participate in "morality", which is inextricably meshed with the experience of conscious beings, then the logic is airtight. If you choose not to participate in morality, none of this will concern you.
You can do both, though the reduction of gratuitous suffering is more urgent.
Yes, "self" destructive behavior is absolutely necessary. (Sociopathic behavior has nothing to do with it.)
Self-destructive behavior is a dramatic way of saying selflessness, or the lack of selfishness. And normalizing this is a way forward.
Addiction to self is a big part of the problem.
No, no it is not. It's only "inextricable" and "airtight" if you are a strict utilitarian.
Yes you can do both, but you can only have one "top priority", and there in lies the problem.
If you're curtailing other people's flourishing to aviod suffering you're a sociopath. You claim that they are not related but I don't see how they could be anything but.
What do you mean?
As the old saw goes, everyone is equal when they are dead. Accordingly the most effective way to achieve equality is genocide. Ditto "preventing suffering". If you're going to go down the Tomasik route I'm going to call you what you are.
Asking people to choose to forgo unnecessary luxuries so that starving children can eat has nothing to do with being a sociopath.
A narcissistic sociopath might try to pretend this was an unreasonable request for whatever reasons a mind like that might manufacture.
Why do you personally think it's more important for a person to have unnecessary luxuries than for a starving child to eat?
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