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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 31, 2025

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When I'm giving my intake speach to interns and new hires I talk about "the 9 nines". That is that in order to have a minimally viable product we must meet or exceed the standards of "baseline human performance" with 99.9 999 999% reliability. Imagine a test with a billion questions where one additional incorrect answer means a failing grade.

I'm not sure what "baseline human performance" means in practice, but regardless of what actual objective criterion that means, we just have to get the error rate to be under 1/10^9 to be effective as a product, right? I don't understand how that, or any other rate you might choose, couldn't be reached, in principle.

Unimportant aside: I don't think 1 mistake in a billion is reasonable for any human or any tool, but, again, I don't know exactly what you're talking where the rubber meets the road - do you have any examples of interns who fail this or are just on the threshold, where you calculated that they fail at 1.1/10^9 or 0.9/10^9, to better illustrate this concept? But regardless, the exact number is unimportant.

In this context "Humans also hallucinate" is just not an excuse. Think about how many "visual operations" a person typically performs in the process of going about thier day. Ask yourself how many cars on your comute this afternoon, or words in this comment thread have you halucinated? A dozen? None? I you think you are sure, are you "9 nines" sure?

It's not meant to be an excuse. I'm actually not sure how many 9s sure I am that I didn't hallucinate anything in my commute today, and I'm not sure that anything in my life exceeds 9 nines certainty. I'm not sure what point this exercise is supposed to make, though. Could you explain how my not being 9 nines certain that I'm not hallucinating things like this very conversation (I'd guess I'm 3 or 4 nines sure at most?) affects the point about an LLM's ability to be useful as intelligent, semi-autonomous tools if we lower their error rate to be beneath that of a typical human serving a similar role?