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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 17, 2025

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Not to mention the Biden Admin would have spun up a vast hostile bureaucracy legalizing millions of recent "asylees" before Trump would have taken office.

Why didn't they do this, in reality? What in the bill was necessary to do this?

One, "would have" notes something which would have happened had the bill passed which it thankfully did not.

Two, they did do it on a smaller scale; the bill was to formalize into law the system, structure, and rules the Biden administration had already implemented. That's how we got the mass parolees into the interior, the planeloads of foreigners into a town near you, the cellphone app where an illegal can click a red button on the screen and then be "legally released" into the interior with a plane or bus ticket.

The Biden admin had spent years losing in court for Senator Lankford to allegedly come forth with a bill which solves the Biden admin's problem for it by putting their illegal behavior into law. The bill would have armed a hostile administration with statutory cover to essentially legalize the tens of millions of illegals which had been shipped into or otherwise allowed into the country while also not even forcing them to stop the flow.

One, "would have" notes something which would have happened had the bill passed which it thankfully did not.

I was basing this on:

Not to mention the Biden Admin would have spun up a vast hostile bureaucracy legalizing millions of recent "asylees" before Trump would have taken office.

Can you clarify the counterfactual you think was avoided, by not passing the bill?

in one situation, it's legislatively authorized and protected and specifically funded

in the other situation, it's done by executive fiat which had already been declared to be illegal multiple times by multiple courts and which would lose at the SCOTUS

Thanks. I wasn't familiar enough the details of the debate.

They did this. What did you think the mass asylum and cbp one app were?

If they did the thing that Bleep said would have been a consequence of the bill passing, without the bill passing, how is it a consequence of the bill?

Oh Jesus Christ, this is ridiculous. They did everything through executive order that the legislation would have made permanent.

I've been reading this argument for days without chiming in because it just looks like trolling and gaslighting.
Looking back at the old arguments makes me even angrier because all the claims about how Biden needed this bill to "do something about the border" were obviously gross partisan lies, and nobody ever apologized for them. Just moved on to spewing new lies as if nobody would remember.

I wasn't familiar enough with the details of the debate, but the problems with both presidents' executive orders seems like evidence for the superiority of statutes as a means of setting/implementing policy.

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