Tuesday November 8, 2022 is Election Day in the United States of America. In addition to Congressional "midterms" at the federal level, many state governors and other more local offices are up for grabs. Given how things shook out over Election Day 2020, things could get a little crazy.
...or, perhaps, not! But here's the Megathread for if they do. Talk about your local concerns, your national predictions, your suspicions re: election fraud and interference, how you plan to vote, anything election related is welcome here. Culture War thread rules apply, with the addition of Small-Scale Questions and election-related "Bare Links" allowed in this thread only (unfortunately, there will not be a subthread repository due to current technical limitations).
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Let's assume this is true - I can absolutely, without a doubt, unequivocally tell you that I would refuse to vote for anyone that has Takes Covid Seriously as a brand. I'm far from alone among people who voted Republican in 2022. If Covid did kill a bunch of Republicans, it may still have been more electorally costly to piss off the people that are voting for you precisely because you aren't a mask enthusiast.
Personally, I would do my best to avoid any voting for candidates that have either "takes covid seriously" or "covid is a nothingburger" as a brand. I think you can easily strike a balance between "extreme lockdowns are stupid and tyrannical" and "yeah you should get the vaccine and not do dangerous things."
Pray tell what are dangerous things? Please articulate what you mean as opposed to hint at what you mean.
Like, going to large superspreader events before vaccines are available? What's the confusion, are you just pretending not to know how covid spreads?
Getting covid means having a bad cold for a very, very large fraction of the public, it also grants some immunity to that strain and perhaps others.
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To most people, that isn’t dangerous. I think your concept of risk is off quite a bit.
Pre-vaccine, for someone around 55, which is probably the age of many GOP voters, getting COVID gives 50% higher risk of death than your yearly average risk. By 65 it appears to be several times your yearly risk, and for comparison, about 10 times the per-jump death risk of BASE jumping. Certainly something you can decide to do, but doesn't sound like something that you want to encourage your voting base to do if your race is close.
That makes it sound high. But what is the average risk of death? Also what is the increased risk of death of sitting around doing nothing?
Finally what superspreader events were rural Coloradans doing?
Are these rhetorical questions, or did you assert that covid "isn't dangerous" without knowing any relevant data?
You are being an ass. One can know the risk of death for an average 55 year old for getting covid (pretty damn low). An interlocutor can bring up some stat (out of thin air with no cite) claiming it increases risk of death in a given year by 50%. Asking what the baseline of death is for a given year at 55 is different from understanding conditional on getting covid what the lethality risk was (ie very low). Through trying to frame the discussion in a particular way, you are now trying to crow “you are making statements without knowing the facts.” No — I’m making that claim based on different criteria.
Also, your concept is you can heavily mitigate the risk. The question is by mitigating that risk do you increase other risks. So I guess based on your “logic” if you are unable to answer that question your entire post shouldn’t have been stated.
You still haven’t discussed the superspreader events rural Coloradans engaged in.
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