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Small-Scale Question Sunday for January 19, 2025

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How Not to Write a Novel:

Published authors use the word "said" almost exclusively when they wish to indicate that a particular character is saying something. "Said" is a convention so firmly established that readers for the most part do not even see it. This helps to make the dialogue realistic by keeping its superstructure invisible.

Many unpublished authors, however, become uncomfortable with the repetition of the word "said" and try to improve the technology of dialogue by substituting any verb that has ever been associated with speech or language.

A particularly egregious version of this occurs when an author conflates a stage direction with the desire to avoid the word "said" and instead of writing "You and what army,” he said, thrusting out his jaw or he asked, quirking a brow, produces something like "Hello,” he thrusted or "Are you going to finish that?” he quirked.The only thing any of this does, though, is draw attention to the unconventional verb, which reminds the reader that there is an author, who is struggling mightily to avoid the word "said".

There are of course exceptions: "asked" is used for questions, "shouted" is used for a character who is doing so, and there will occasionally be a good reason to use a word other than "said" for plain speech. But spicing things up with "importuned," "vociferated", or "clamored" will sabotage any attempt to make conversation sound real.

Published authors use the word "said" almost exclusively when they wish to indicate that a particular character is saying something. "Said" is a convention so firmly established that readers for the most part do not even see it. This helps to make the dialogue realistic by keeping its superstructure invisible.

A very convenient justification, but one belied by the fact that people very much do notice it. The structure is not invisible. The best way is just to limit usage of the word ‘said’ through sentence structure; much of the time it is redundant.

Consider:

I arrived at the party, said hello to the host and quickly found my friend. Charles said that he was angry and frustrated. It wasn’t merely the weather, he said, but the dour tone of the whole occasion that dampened even the faintest prospect of a pleasant evening.

Versus

I arrived at the party, greeted the host and quickly found my friend. Charles was angry and frustrated, not merely by the weather, but by the dour tone of the whole occasion…

Most writers of even poor prose are capable of this. The problem is much more pronounced in journalism, which adopts this rule more zealously than necessary (to put it mildly). An article about a president’s speech will say:

President Smith said Tuesday that he expected the economy to resume growing this year. Speaking at the White House, Smith said….Smith said…Smith said…the President said…the President said…he said…

Dull, dull, dull. “He added”, “he argued”, “he expanded”, he clarified” - many of these actually add useful descriptive context and break up the said monotony, which contrary to the quote actually is very noticeable.

“Vociferated” is indeed horrific, but it’s the bailey in this argument.

The How Not to Write a Novel example is referring to the use of "said" in speech tags for directly quoted dialogue, not when summarising a series of interactions in narration. There's a separate passage in the book in which they specifically encourage writers to summarise incidental dialogue much like your second example, rather than quoting it directly. The example they gave is something to the effect of:

Making her excuses, Sarah sat down to lunch with Jane.

as opposed to

"Sorry I'm late," Sarah said. "Traffic was mental."

"Don't worry about it," Jane said. "I've only been waiting five minutes."

"Oh, that's not too bad," Sarah said.

Personally, I can't recall ever reading a book which I thought was too boring and monotonous specifically because the writer failed to use enough synonyms for "said". Maybe you're talking primarily about journalism, but I think if I read a novel which featured the speech tag Joe expanded, I would probably roll my eyes. It strikes me as part of a register which is inappropriate for most fiction.

I agree, but the example was about journalism, to be clear, where the tags are a useful way of structuring a story for additional clarity. With directly quoted dialogue I think it’s a matter of writer’s preference / style, there are certainly novels with huge amounts of dialogue, bordering on a script in some cases, that I quite enjoy.

Fair enough. Offhand I can't recall an instance in which I thought a piece of journalism was sapped of interest by overuse of the word "said" but I'll keep an eye out for it in future.

Because I have too much time on my hands, I re-read one of my favourite pieces of journalism: "Shattered Glass" by Buzz Bissinger. Out of 45 speech tags, I count 30 "saids".