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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022

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I care because I don't like to be ruled over by a population group that gleefully advertises its hatred and genocidal tendencies towards mine. The question wasn't whether the mechanism by which they accrue power is hereditary or not. The question was what their IQ was and by what mechanism they accrue power.

The question and distinction between ability to do good and ability to do bad, i.e. exploit and leech, is extremely important. As as the case with Freud in the past and various jewish charlatans that abused the privilege of the position afforded to them by gentile society and used it to actively sabotage and destroy the lives of the people that maintained that society.

This might is right dogma you are hiding behind has no relevance here since the question is not who is winning but why they are winning. You've already granted my point and I have little interest in hearing you grandstand on the corpses of dead slaves and homeless bankrupted peasants in the name of jewish supremacy.

In other words financiers and labor-market brokers, the two most important roles in pre-modern commerce

No, I mean slave merchants and usurers. Two things that were not needed for Europe to prosper. As is made obviously clear by the fact that modern prosperity rose from North/Western European technological advances. Which, to bring the discussion full circle, contradicts the notion that jews were somehow needed for their alleged intellect.

You brought up mechanisms as an alternative explanation to jewish IQ. I wouldn't mind it if there were charismatic, ingenious, curious, high IQ people from Planet X running things so long as things ran in ways that weren't deleterious to my life. But that's not how things are run. Things run on the basis of group based favoritism and the people who run things have a very clear bias that they act on with impunity.

This is the product of jews in positions of influence and power. From marxist economics to Boasian anthropology to Freudian psychology to Frankfurt School sociology to jewish second and third wave feminism to neo-conservatism and towards whatever this modern amalgamation of all of this crap can be called. Today I'm living it.

I guess the mechanism matters to me because I find the idea that the smart, high IQ, ingenious, charismatic and naturally curios path and philosophy towards life should necessarily reach the conclusion that celebrating the demise of people who are identified as being like me to be insane. I can't read about the history of these allegedly horrible people, that have literally carried the world on their backs out of the goodness of their hearts and believe that their demise could in any way be better for anyone. I can't look my family members in the face and pretend that their lives live up to the horror stories conjured up about them by race hustling jews that occupy positions of power in academia and media. Similarly I can't imagine that the best way to run a pharmaceutical company is to kill hundreds of thousands of people by marketing extremely addictive painkillers to them. I can't imagine that the best way to cast women into movie roles is to see who is willing to suck your deformed penis. I can't imagine that an industry centered around pornography could be a good thing. If jews were really in positions of power because of the things you attributed to them then I could only be insane. You can't prop up an industries of sexual exploitation or mass drug addiction without there being some missing ingredients from your list of inherited mechanisms.

Who financed the railroads, the factories, the shipyards, the mines, the refineries, the mills?

Who invented and built them? Who invented and built the society that made those inventions possible? Who came in after all the leg work was done and leveraged their ill gotten gains to leech off of this process? Why on earth did jews need to finance Europeans in the first place instead of just financing themselves doing this?

Then grant me this, at least - which country do you live in and, if diverse, to what tribe do you belong? I am always interested.

I'm from Scandinavia.

When members of parliament were having a discussion on banning infant genital mutilation the nation got a harshly worded letter from the ADL mentioning that there would be consequences if the people of the country and its representatives voted the wrong way. Following this the subject was dropped despite popular public support. There has also been one of the largest uptake of drug addicts and deaths following the introduction of drugs like Oxycontin. Outside of such direct examples of effect there are countless examples of indirect effects. Since, culturally, we are all living in America and there is no escape.