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So we make lots of noise and grand plans then let China keep doing it?
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So we make lots of noise and grand plans then let China keep doing it?
Well the Chinese are trying to move away from coal, in relative terms. They've got more investment in renewables than anyone else: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-top-10-countries-by-energy-transition-investment/
It's just that they're also the world's factory and they don't want to jeopardize their industry with expensive energy.
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