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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 6, 2025

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Kamala Harris became the presidential nominee without without participating in or winning any primary elections. They essentially just made her the nominee and everyone kind of went along with it.

This is absurd. Intra-party democracy is not an essential part of a democratic society. The open (in the broad rather then technical sense) primary is a relatively recent development in relatively few nations, so unless you believe the near every democracy except America since the 1970s was in some way deficient or illegitimate these two are not at all equivalent.

They're not gonna stop. And this is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not gonna stop. And everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day. And that should be—everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not gonna let up, and they should not, and we should not."

Even if this was contemporaneous with the riots, it was not about the riots, it was in context clearly about protests - and crucially, unlike Trump she was totally unambiguous when she condemned violence, unlike Trump who, even when he told people to go home, still spent 90% of the time whining about losing the election.

We must always defend peaceful protest and peaceful protestors. We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice.

Here she makes a clear statement that rioters have no part in her coalition. Trump treated the Capitol rioters as misunderstood patriots.

This year, Joe Biden commuted the sentences of 37 death row inmates.

This is such a strange comparison to make I can't tell if you're being serious.

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Even if this was contemporaneous with the riots, it was not about the riots, it was in context clearly about protests - and crucially, unlike Trump she was totally unambiguous when she condemned violence, unlike Trump who, even when he told people to go home, still spent 90% of the time whining about losing the election.

Everyone on the left was doing this motte-and-bailey in 2020 and it angered me to no end. I had to worry about where I parked and which routes to take to avoid getting stopped for hours, surrounded, or have my car destroyed by BLM - whether you call them "protestors" or "rioters", I don't care. The two often bled into each other. And I was terrified that the protests would spread from downtown out to where I lived. They can all go to hell.

Of course Kamala condemned violence... but then she raises money for a bail fund for people that were arrested for violent acts during a "protest"/"riot". Watch the actions, not the words.

Your entire reply to me is a series of examples of you demonstrating the exact point I was making about retconning. I'm not even sure if your comment is real.

I typed out a longer reply, but I don't think I want to have this back and forth. You make patently false statements and you have a petulant Redditor tone that I loathe.

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