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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 17, 2022

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I'm not saying Bush's use of torture was stupid

I am not saying it was, either. But I am saying the anti-torture movement did not want to have an uncomfortable discussion that we were leaving a useful tool on the table by declining to torture, because "it does not work anyway."

But life is not a morality play. Sometimes making the morally right decision leaves you worse off. That is why it is called the moral decision. If you pay nothing for your principles they are not principles.

Nobody is questioning that torture is useful when what you want is a false confession, or even a true one

See, now, this is even worse. Torture can absolutely get confirmable information out of a person. That is extremely useful in a conflict. Pretending it is just useful for false confessions to manufacture a war is refusing to face reality.

An anti-torture movement that is built the idea that torture does not work is built on a foundation of lies and will crumble to dust in the first strong wind.

An anti-torture movement that says "yes torture works, but we refuse to do it, because those are our principles" is healthy in the long term.