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Wellness Wednesday for November 13, 2024

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

  • Requests for advice and / or encouragement. On basically any topic and for any scale of problem.

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There are other places in the "West" than the USA. Education is essentially free in many of these places for example. Or free until the kid is 18+, at which point the parents presumably had a lot of time to financially become stable. Otherwise student loans and scholarships exist. And most people don't go to university anyway.

I'm not in the US, and there's a reason I intentionally used "the West" instead of a specific country. The additional difficulty of child rearing seems to me to be a phenomenon present in most Western countries, and quite a few non-Western ones.

The cost of education isn't a major worry for me, at least on behalf of my kids. I expect the idea of college to be antiquated by the time they're 18, or even the concept of current systems of formal education for the purpose of becoming an earning member of society. I don't plan to save money for their college fund, since I doubt they'll attend one, though of course I wish to be financially prudent and save money in general for their sake.

Westerners aren't (entirely) some weird rugged individuals. Many grandparents help their children quite a bit with child-rearing and overall financials in early adulthood. You seem to worried specifically about raising children in the West as an immigrant without family or savings.

I don't deny that there are people who are lucky/sensible in that regard. My surprise is expressed towards the idea of those who don't have those resources and yet have multiple kids! When they do so, they're doing something I perceive as difficult, and where they don't bother, I see why. While I might not have very close family in the West, I do expect to at least have money by the time I do have kids, even making an above average amount. The issue is that the money doesn't buy nearly as much time as I'd like, and yet there are people worse off doing it anyway.