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naraburns  nihil supernum  9d ago (text post)   26700 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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You don't owe anyone an explanation. However, if you claim that something is rigged, that is a completely meaninglessness thing to say without evidence and you should be ridiculed for having no epistemic standards.

'Fraud or incompetence'. So you actually don't admit that you had any particular reason to believe this was rigged rather than wrong? It wasn't 'beyond obvious' that it was rigged? Don't retreat to a more defensible position once pressed a little on your initial claim. That's what intellectually dishonest people and cowards do.

I understand your OP now. At first I thought you were mocking the idea of deferring to experts at all. But now it seems like you're just claiming when YOU look at expert opinions youre doing your own research, but when OTHERS (who don't agree with you) do they are worshipping bought and paid for experts.

I'm confident you completely discount the left leaning folk who believed other polls just as much as the Selzer one, but please prove me wrong if that's not true

You are clearly here looking for a fight, not light. The left just got epistemically pantsed yet you are sitting here throwing stones, demanding that I be “ridiculed” due to your thoroughly uncharitable interpretation of my statements.

All I can say is good luck with that.

10 comments in and there has been absolutely no evidence provided for the claim that it was 'beyond obvious' the poll was rigged (not just wrong).

The reason is that you don't have any, and you made a statement you now realize you can't back up, and you refuse to admit to that fact.

Additionally, you make an OP all but sneering at leftists who believe in a certain poll and then have the audacity to act like I am being extra uncharitable to you.

Good luck improving your epistemological standards. Don't let the burden of proof door hit you on the way out

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