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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 4, 2024

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Who do you think will win, Trump or Harris?

Harris, because we'll get as much turnout from the living-impaired voter demographic as necessary to ensure she wins.

Relatedly, do you think there will be issues certifying the election results?

No, because Republicans lack the wherewithal to block certification no matter how obviously fraudulent the results. We could have North Korean election results, and people will just throw up their hands, grumble, and plan to vote harder in 2028.

And of course - do you think we'll see outright political violence?

Only if Trump somehow manages to miraculously overcome the margin of fraud — in which case, we will see strong attempts to block certification. We'll also Trump given a lengthy jail sentence in New York, which left-leaning state law enforcement — and possibly the FBI — will attempt to arrest him so he can be extradited to serve said sentence before he can be sworn in. Expect large, organized uprisings to stop the Fascist takeover.

Harris, because we'll get as much turnout from the living-impaired voter demographic as necessary to ensure she wins.

Granting the possibility that it would be easy to cast ballots in the name of dead people, wouldn’t this type of fraud be trivial to prove after the fact? Who voted in any given election is public information. Select a random cohort of voters, then check if they are still alive. Did anyone do this for 2020?

wouldn’t this type of fraud be trivial to prove after the fact?

No, because AIUI, it's literally illegal to try to obtain the evidence necessary to prove it. (Edit: I think /u/The_Nybbler has posted comments here to this effect.)

To again quote "L" at Jim's:

It literally would not matter if there wasn’t a single genuine voter for Kamala in any of those states. The vote is whatever the people counting the vote say it is. Guess who those people are?

By the way, there’s not a single mechanism or institution that would ever support any kind of challenge to the results. Musk can say whatever he wants, in the short time he has before prison, and it doesn’t mean anything.

Again, doesn’t matter if they exclusively counted votes while utterly shitfaced. You have no institutional means to stop them saying the total is whatever we want and no ability to use force. You’re done, simple as.

[Emphasis added]

I think it varies state-by-state. Here is what voter data Pennsylvania says you can get for $20.00:

PA Full Voter Export

As provided by 25 Pa.C.S. Section 1404(b)(1) (relating to Public Information Lists), as well as the SURE Regulations at 4 Pa. Code Section 184.14(b) (relating to Public Information Lists), the Department of State will provide the Full Voter Export List to requestors.

This version of the Public Information List is a full export of all voters in the county and contains the following fields: voter ID number, name, sex, date of birth, date registered, status (i.e., active or inactive), date status last changed, party, residential address, mailing address, polling place, date last voted, all districts in which the voter votes (i.e., congressional, legislative, school district, etc.), voter history, and date the voter’s record was last changed.

The cost of the Full Voter Export list is 20.00. Upon successful payment an email will be sent to the provided email address.

This data is current as of 11/04/2024 and will be refreshed on 11/11/2024 at midnight

Why can some election integrity guy on Twitter not post TODAY the cryptographic hash of a pseudorandom algorithm that he will use to pull a sample of registered Pennsylvania voters who cast a ballot in the 2024 election to manually check for dead people? This wouldn’t be like, super easy, but surely someone out of the 25% of the country who thinks Trump won in 2020 has both the skills and the will to do it.

Supposedly anyone with a few bucks can file a FOIA request too. In reality you need a team of lawyers to force the government to comply with it's own laws. Which is why only large news organizations get any information out of FOIA anymore.

And that's more or less how it's played out over the last 4 years with all the litigation that is still ongoing from the 2020 election.