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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 16, 2024

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It doesn't happen in a vacuum. It comes on ten years of media calling Trump a threat to democracy, a traitor selling the country to Russia, a violent fascist thug who needs to be executed, take him out and beat him, put his severed bloody head on TV, talk about blowing up the White House -- what, I apologized, and Trump deserved it for all his violent rhetoric, I can't believe Republicans would try shooting him like this.

Sure, but none of this in anyway indicates he might not have been a Trump supporter at some point who became disillusioned. You are in fact describing how that could have happened. If we are believing all his stuff about Ukraine and disliking Trump now, the most likely explanation is that his previous statements are also true. He did think Trump was a good choice, and then whether by Trump's actions or by the media, or by a mixture of both, he came to despise him.

There is no reason for him to lie about Trump being his choice all the way back in 2020 publicly. It doesn't impact what he tried to do now, other than, if it is true that disaffected ex-Trump supporters or ex-Republicans are more likely to try to kill him, because converts and those who feel betrayed are more zealous in their new belief systems, it might slightly shift who needs to be watched more carefully.

If both Crooks and Routh were ex-Republicans or ex-Trump supporters who turned against him then that is important information when trying to keep Trump alive. It doesn't say anything about the morality of current Republicans or Trump supporters. I'm not trying to make a political point or to shift blame, rather than observing than if both attempted killers were currently Blue affiliated, but seemed to previously not be, then that is really important information if you are a Trump supporter or do not want him killed. 1) Because stopping that happening seems pretty important generally, and 2) Because it shifts the profile of likely further attackers.

the most likely explanation is that his previous statements are also true.

Again, he lied about voting for Trump! Why should I accept this frame that his violence is right-wing when the proof that he's right-wing was a lie?

If we want to stop political violence and assassination attempts, the obvious play is to specifically call out the people making violent threats. That includes a number of top Democratic officials.

Again, he lied about voting for Trump!

His tweet actually said, that Trump was his choice, not that he voted for him actually. The article I was reading interpreted that to mean voted for, but strictly that is not what he said.

And come on, you can't just rely on calling out people who make threats, you also need to profile and plan for attackers regardless. Doing A does not mean not doing B.