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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 9, 2024

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Why? Why is it bullshit?

My post didn't say that the way engineers work is not the way humans work. My post said that engineers approach problems, solve them - often very well - and then fail to appreciate that solving the engineering problem alone is insufficient because what business is about is solving human problems.

Engineering, across all of its various domains, is a fantastically valuable endeavor for humans to pursue. On its own, it is not enough. And that's fine. We work, as humans, in complex organizations so we can leverage one another's relative strengths to achieve a larger goal.


Because you said;

"Everything about your original post oozes contempt for engineers, from "autism" to "could Talk To Girls (TM)".

I'll respond by saying that everything about your multiple posts oozes butthurt engineer who think that sales and marketing add no value. As a former engineer who felt this way for a long time, I have a strong prior that you're failing to understand some very human problems. You can change this and your life can improve.

I'll respond by saying that everything about your multiple posts oozes butthurt engineer who think that sales and marketing add no value. As a former engineer who felt this way for a long time, I have a strong prior that you're failing to understand some very human problems. You can change this and your life can improve.

The number one complaint engineers have about sales types is the sales people make deals by promising the customer things they expect engineering to back up. They then talk management into making it engineering's problem that the thing can't be done or is more expensive than the deal is worth. You can call that "butthurt" but it's certainly not dehumanizing.

Engineers communicate with each other. This mode of communication is not the same as salespeople use with each other or their buyer counterparts at the clients. Salespeople, including you, consider only the latter to be "human interaction". That's what's dehumanizing.