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Wellness Wednesday for August 7, 2024

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Why get worked up over people's beliefs when there's no substance behind them? To borrow a quote from The Expanse: "He doesn't care about treason. That's just him parroting you because you talked to him last. If he spoke to a janitor he'd be passionately declaiming about a fucking mop!" Trying to edify most people is about as silly as turning a weathervane because you don't like which way it's pointing.

Now, you can react to this with existential horror at the thought that you're surrounded by mindless NPCs/p-zombies/what-have-you, or you can accept that the world is the way it is, enjoy the time that you spend arguing with us autists about ideas and politics as though they mean something, and then put down the phone and spend the rest of your time grilling with the normies. Having these ideas be so central to your identity that you walk around constantly stressed about hiding your power level and trying to slip red pills to everyone you meet is making the same mistake as woke or trans activists who've taken their ideological or sexual fetishes out of the online caves where they belong and into the light of day for passers-by to gawk at, and made an embarrassment out of themselves in the process.

Good point about the weathervane, hah. I don't want to edify anyone or drop red pills or hide my power level. But I'm unusually concerned with truth, and with the realness of relationships. And I want others to seek out truths too. If I have to bite my tongue every time they start commenting on politics, I'm partially living a lie as far as those relationships are concerned. Maybe the fact that this bothers me is just my particular brand of autism/insanity.

What makes me bristle isn't so much the timepleasing NPCs, but the hardliners who are out trying to pick a fight with anyone who won't submit to the currently dominant ideology. The ones who might loudly proclaim a very partisan or ideological take on the world to their friend in public or in a group of acquaintances, as if it's the truth and they want to argue with anyone who disagrees. That puts me in a position of either fighting it (outnumbered) or becoming a bit of a coward who just takes it. But maybe that's a false dilemma. Maybe the better position to take is the one of being amused at their embarassing exhibitionism of radical opinions in public. And to g

I'm not the person you just responded to, but

I personally don't interact with people who care about politics in a way which makes them hostile and prone to policing other peoples beliefs, behaviour and language. I avoid them like I avoid people who complain or brag all the time. Personally, I'd respond something like "I don't like talking about politics", "I'm not interested in that topic", or "I'm invested in other things". There's various things they could respond to that, but I think I have an answer for most things that civilized people could say. As for the rest - they're sufficiently unpleasant people that I can allow myself not to be polite to them.

Just refuse to play their game... yeah that makes sense.