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This sub got a little bit too invested in the Ukraine war. It is shocking to me that the claim "CIA was involved in (a very favorable) regime change in country where American foreign policy has serious interests" now brings up several heavily upvoted "rebuffs".
Yes Ukraine was very corrupt and mismanaged by pro-Russian politicians. It was also very corrupt and mismanaged by pro-Western politicians. Majority of the countries around the world are very corrupt and mismanaged. Virtually no CIA takeover ever comes out of nowhere. Grievances on their own rarely bring down regimes. The Soviet Union used to be well-known for leveraging the political problems in foreign countries to force regime changes favorable to themselves, and they would use basically the same arguments to justify their behavior. Interestingly, the Americans would use the opposite arguments to justify military invasions of said countries to restore the aligned regimes.
Just change CIA to KGB and Ukraine to Vietnam or Cuba and somehow you can write this entire discussion in reverse with the same arguments.
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