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Why is the debate about dropping out of the campaign and not about stepping down as president? A man unfit to campaign is a man unfit to hold the nuclear codes. His cabinet should be the ones asking for a medical test in preparation for invoking the 25th Amendment.
The 25th amendment is not obligatory. There is no requirement to invoke the amendment if the president is incapacitated, only a pathway to do so. That Kamala and the cabinet have not done so thus far is bad for the nation, but good politics. You don't want to be the one to point out that Brezhnev isn't all there anymore.
The 25th has to be invoked voluntarily by Joe Biden, or by Kamala Harris and a majority of the Cabinet. As long as Biden is physically able to sign documents and read prepared speeches off a teleprompter, Cabinet secretaries' jobs are more fun with no boss than working for Harris.
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From Kamala Harris's perspective, the Brezhnev -> Andropov route is the most realistic path for her, though she'd hope to live longer than Androppedoff.
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