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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 17, 2024

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Someone saying "no, no I only date people with a biological sex of female, you see..." is told, "that's not a sexual orientation, that's just bigotry."

I am kind of with Scott on this one. Love is the one area where one can discriminate. People are attracted to what they are attracted, which includes presenting gender, what kind of interface the other person has between their legs, skin color, body type, hair color, relative height, dialects, high nobility, potential for offspring, appearance, socioeconomic status, criminal record and anything else under the sun.

And for what it is worth, I don't think that this "either date transgender or be called a bigot" will fly even in the LGBTQWhatever community. If some hairy dude goes into a lesbian bar, declares that he identifies as a woman and challenges some lesbian to take him home or be a bigot, then the queers will not be on the side of the dude.

Have you seen what's happened to lesbians lately? They have absolutely been attacked for "don't ask women to suck your dick at a lesbian bar" policies! The thing you're suggesting would never happen already happened 5 or 6 years ago, and with the full support of the lgbtqxyz++ media!

Fair point. I can see why such policies might be instituted to solve the problem of basically-cishet-guys hitting on lesbians, as well as how this would affect the odd genuine trans-lesbian.

There is still a difference between deciding "no dicks allowed" for a bar than deciding that for one's own sexual partners. Ideally one would have a different lesbian bars with different admittance policies (no dicks, must present female, must self-identify female) and let the market do its work. This would likely result in all the guys deciding to claim female identity as a ploy to get laid ending up in one bar, where they can then give each other BJs if they really feel it is bigot to not be into cocks.

My favorite example of this is complaints about the "cotton ceiling"[https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/6a3e3a/who_else_here_is_put_off_by_the_idea_of_the/]("cotton ceiling"), which to me paints a hilarious and sad picture of aspergers guys becoming trans as a gambit of rules-lawyering lesbians into sleeping with them.

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